Webdelics Podcast

Psychedelics: Bridging Business and the Sacred

Episode Summary

On this episode of the Webdelics Podcast, host Scott Mason sits down with Stephanie Traeger to unravel the tapestry of plant medicines and psychedelics within the realms of business and the sacred. Two former attorneys, Scott and Stephanie explore the paths that led them away from the legal profession and towards a different understanding of life, and discuss how similar changes are happening on a global scale. Stephanie shares her insights into the non-linear nature of plant medicine and the importance of intention and integrity in its use. These substances can influence not just personal transformation, but also global systems change.

Episode Notes

“Business, life, it's all one thing. We're humans here having a human experience.” - Stephanie Trager

Stephanie Trager is an activist, speaker, healer, the host of the Catalyst Talks podcast and a multifaceted coach and advisor, specializing in helping analytical soul seekers unlock their true potential. With her background as an attorney, author, and advocate for evolutionary consciousness, she serves as a bridge between different realms, focusing on dismantling biases and shifting worldviews. Stephanie has also been involved in various social justice initiatives, such as Holocaust reparations and Indigenous land repatriation.

Highlights from the Episode:

Scott points out that being an attorney is not necessarily the most sacred of professions, and Stephanie talks about how leaving the legal profession wasn’t giving anything up - but rather gaining her life.
How we frame things matter, and can change the outcomes.
Stephanie believes “in our sovereign right to do the right thing.” A lot of laws and mandates don’t support that. This belief led her towards being an entrepreneur and a healer, finding a freedom in coaching to integrate all of her skills and abilities and beliefs.
“What are the roads to awakening consciousness that will snap us out of [the] sleepwalk?” Stephanie discusses the role of plant spirit medicine in shaking people out of their complacency.
Stephanie asks us to consider how extraction is a symptom of disconnection from nature, and Scott points out that “sues like racism, poverty, abuse, mistreatment of others, casual cruelty all occur because on some level or another, we're able to extract the humanity of others from our own humanity.”
“Plant medicine is not linear, and you can't expect to have a linear experience. There’s nothing linear about it.”
Legalization, regulation and mass production can have a degrading impact on the spirit of medicinal plants, but they still grow in the wild, and authentic spiritual connections with them can still be made.
Scott and Stephanie discuss sacred versus non-sacred spaces and experiences, and Stephanie recommends doing abundant research and talking to people, knowing that eventually someone will point you in the right direction. “It becomes a journey of trusting yourself. You’re already on the journey.”
Scott wonders whether our current economic model could sustain a shift into a larger consciousness, bridging business and the sacred, and Stephanie points out that it’s already happening, but it’s hard to see because it’s so non-linear.
Psychedelics and plant medicine have often been in the realm of the creative, and many came back with new ideas and philosophies or ways of seeing, but Stephanie reminds us that for all of those benefits, “there are a lot of people who never came back. Your soul can get lost. You need to be careful.”
“There are so many different paths we can go on to access that truth and that healing.” Stephanie says the most important thing is to do your inner work first, so you’re prepared for the experience.

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